Once again proving that he is no right-wing partisan, Fox News’ Chris Wallace confronted Senator Santorum with some tough questions this morning. As usual, Santorum stood his ground and answered the questions while Casey was off hiding somewhere. (Note: These are not direct quotes, but rather are my paraphrasing of the questions and answers - Update: An actual transcript is up on FoxNews.com):
Wallace: Polls show you behind by more than 10 points. You have been in the Senate for twelve years… why shouldn’t we look at this and say Pennsylvanians know who Rick Santorum is, and they just aren’t buying this year?
Santorum: We have a lot of polls that show different than that, and we’re happy about our position right now. I’m out talking about the important issues of the day. I’ve talked about the “Gathering Storm”, the threat we face. The people are beginning to understand that we need leadership, not people who hide, as my opponent who didn’t come on the show today. He has nothing to offer but ‘let’s raise taxes’.
Wallace: Let’s look at one of your ads. (Shows the last few seconds of the “Baltic Avenue” ad) Bob Casey along with pictures of Kim Jong Il, Ahmadinejad and a mushroom cloud! How do you justify making the case that he votes for Amnesty and is therefore soft on terrorists?
Santorum: He’s against the missile defense system and he’s against nuclear-tipped bunker busting bombs which would be necessary to take out installations in Iran.
Wallace: But you said he supports Amnesty for illegals and therefore is soft on terror.
Santorum: You only showed a piece of that ad. The other things I mentioned are a part of that ad, including NSA wiretap which he refuses to take a position on. I came out and made a long speech about these issues and he accused me of fear-mongering. I’m not fear-mongering; I’m describing reality.
Wallace: Let’s talk about the reality of the vote on illegal immigration. All he said is that he would vote for the comprehensive immigration reform package in the Senate, which was supported by 23 Republican Senators and President Bush! Does that make them soft on terror?
Santorum: (Nods, “yes”) I think in that particular respect, yes. Anything that says to the people of the world that they can break our laws, come into our country, and we’ll give them Amnesty, then you encourage more people to come and I think that does allow for the opportunity (of an attack) if we don’t secure the borders. An overwhelming majority of Pennsylvanians reject the Senate bill.
Wallace: Senator, you’re saying that your Pennsylvania colleague Arlen Specter, and George W. Bush, both of whom supported that bill, are soft on terrorists?!
Santorum: I don’t know how I can make it more clear, Chris. If we don’t secure the borders and if we give Amnesty, then we’re going to get more people in this country that I believe could be a threat to this country and I think we’re seeing that.
Wallace: You also link Casey to US casualties in Iraq since he has opposed energy exploration. (Shows clip of Santorum blasting Casey for playing to environmental extremists at the expense of our troops in the Middle East.) Senator, I thought we went into Iraq to get rid of Weapons of Mass Destruction?
Santorum: I think everyone realizes that the principle reason why Islamic fascism is the threat that it is today is that they have resources and they have oil. The only way we’re going to holistically confront this threat is to develop energy security in this country. We need to use all means necessary, but Casey is against offshore drilling. China is drilling 50 miles off the shore of the US, but he won’t allow the US to drill 100 miles off the shore. He’ll allow 3,700 gas and oil wells to be drilled in western PA last year, but he won’t allow us to drill less than 1,000 wells in the north slope of Alaska over the next 25 years. Our men and women are out there and they’re sacrificing because they (Islamic fascists) have resources to be able to project power. The only reason Iran can get a nuclear weapon is that they have the oil revenue. We have to use every resource we have to become energy secure!
Wallace: Pennsylvania does not have a gay marriage ban on the ballot, but are you going to try to make gay marriage an issue because in the neighboring state of New Jersey, the Supreme Court there just said that same-sex couples should have full legal rights?
Santorum: My opponent and I are very different on this issue. He said that he would fight against any state or federal constitutional amendment that would secure the right of the people to define what marriage is. He would allow the courts to decide the issue. I don’t believe in that. On the great moral issues of our time, the people have a right to speak and say what their collective morality is, and what kind of country they want to live in. A few unelected or even elected judges should not impose that. He would go along with the unelected judges. He supports civil unions.
For the record, this program aired on Fox 53 WPGH in Pittsburgh. About halfway through the show, Santorum’s Wrestling ad aired. That means his ads are back on non-cable stations.
Update by AlexC: Mark Kilmer also blogged it at Redstate. He writes…
Pennsylvania Senator Rick Santorum was Wallace’s next guest on FNS. (They invited Bob Casey also, but junior didn’t dare to appear in public. Again.) Wallace pointed out that most polls show Rick trailing by double digits, but Santorum claimed to have internal polls “that show a lot different.” Rick said he is trying to get the message out of what is at stake in this election, and he cited his Gathering Storm speech.
Rick pointed out that Casey “hides from the public… because he has nothing to offer.”
Wallace played a clip of Rick arguing that opposing the use of domestic energy benefits the terrorists. Santorum said that Islamic fascists are taken so seriously because they have oil. Casey, he said, opposes offshore drilling and exploration in ANWR.
Given what just happened with the courts in New Jersey, Wallace asked, is gay marriage an issue in the Pennsylvania race? Rick thinks so, and he pointed out that Casey would remove the ability to define marriage from the people and give it to a few judges. He said that Casey supports gay marriage without the term “marriage,” i.e.– civil unions.
… and I saw the North Korea ad on Philadelphia’s WTXF Fox 29 10 o’clock news.